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2/10/2010 22:57:57  
 

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The drivers seat on my 2000 3200GT has started to flake. I have had the car for about 4 months and obviously got caught up in the whole Maserati-ness of the test drive as whilst I noticed that the seat had had some work, I didn't realise that it involved painting virtually every seat surface!

The car has done 94k and it is expected that the seat would have some wear. I understand that acetone (nail varnish remover) or a high grade thinners would remove the paint, but am concerned about using that much thinners and what damage it could do to the underlying leather.

The piping at the back of the seat base (where it meets the base of the upright) has split slightly (@3mm) too.

Can anyone advise me?

As far as I can see it, I would need to either:
a) look for a good secondhand seat in cream leather (and hope that it was not too badly worn) - if only to roughly match the wear to the other seats.
b) strip back the seat and get it repainted (I'd rather not)
c) retrim the seat (and probably have to get the passenger seat done too)

The rest of the interior is in remarkably good condition (far better than my BMW coupe after 7 years and 64k). 

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3/10/2010 17:39:35  

 

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The main reason that it is flaking is either down to the seat not being degreased/cleaned properly prior to re-dying or that it hasn't been cared for properly since with regular feeding .
you'll find that most seats if they are done properly will have the entire face or even the whole seat re-dyed as it's practically impossible to get a perfect colour match , so the whole seat (or both) is done to give a even finish.

You can remove the dye , i use cellulose thinners , it takes some doing and is a bit messy but it can be done effectively .
After removing with thinners i always retreat the leather with gliptone conditioner to get some oils back into it before re-dying.

The main problem you will have is when you do remove the dye is that it will reveal what was underneath,the reason why they were done in the first place, so you will still need to get them re-dyed or trimmed.

The thing to remember redying /connolising/ painting the seats (whichever you want to call it ) is not a permanent solution , although it is a cheaper option than re-trimming which is why most people have it done .
Saying that , if it's done and maintained correctly you should get a good 2 to 3 years out of it though

I've got some photo's of a set of 355 seats i did recently , i'll dig them out and show how i did it.

Cheers
Dave

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ORIGINAL: willoughbybrown

The drivers seat on my 2000 3200GT has started to flake. I have had the car for about 4 months and obviously got caught up in the whole Maserati-ness of the test drive as whilst I noticed that the seat had had some work, I didn't realise that it involved painting virtually every seat surface!

The car has done 94k and it is expected that the seat would have some wear. I understand that acetone (nail varnish remover) or a high grade thinners would remove the paint, but am concerned about using that much thinners and what damage it could do to the underlying leather.

The piping at the back of the seat base (where it meets the base of the upright) has split slightly (@3mm) too.

Can anyone advise me?

As far as I can see it, I would need to either:
a) look for a good secondhand seat in cream leather (and hope that it was not too badly worn) - if only to roughly match the wear to the other seats.
b) strip back the seat and get it repainted (I'd rather not)
c) retrim the seat (and probably have to get the passenger seat done too)

The rest of the interior is in remarkably good condition (far better than my BMW coupe after 7 years and 64k). 
4/10/2010 6:41:00  

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I almost got stung in the same way. Saw a really nice car with a great interior and had I not been circumspect about the colour I would have bought it. Saw the same car 3 months later on the dealer forecourt and both front seats were cracked and split beyond belief!  A poor restoration job done just to get it presentable for a quick sale no doubt.

I have found a product called Leatherique which is a similar process to that described by Dave and if done correctly is hardwearing and should last 3-5 years with proper and regular conditioning. It's a DIY job that is fairly straightforward but a littel time consuming. Still if you want the job done properly... as they say

Regards,

Neil

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16/10/2010 17:39:05  
 

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I'm going to bite the bullet and see what the damage is under the paint. I am braced for the worst!

My father was in the trade repairing car bodywork and he has 25litres of high grade thinners that I am going to remove the paint with. I am not too keen on doing it in situ.

How easy is it to remove the seat from the car (and replace it!)?


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5/11/2010 7:08:14  
 

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//How easy is it to remove the seat from the car (and replace it!)? 

Each seat is secured to the floor with 4 hex socket screws. Slide the seat furthest forward to reveal the rear pair and furthest backwards to reveal the front pair. The seat will then be loose, and the cable connectors can be separated at this stage. The rear seat base can be removed by pulling it upwards. 

The first thing I did when I bought my 3200GT was to treat the seats with leather care cream. It's just a case of working it in by hand and letting it soak in. Dry areas need reapplication. All in all, it took about an hour. I left it for 24 hours before wiping of any excess. It made the seats absolutely gorgeous and the smell just like a new car. Cost - about £2.50

Duncan
18/11/2010 14:07:23  
 

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Thanks Duncan, I'll definitely go for the cream for the rest of the interior.
I am currently looking at a pair of front seats for a swap now and restore at my leisure. The car is a daily driver so needs it's drivers seat!

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