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German Prices and a bit of a 32 v. 42 rehash;-)

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31/1/2008 13:09:27  
 

Posts: 2
Since: 31/1/2008
Status: offline 		Hello All,

have been lurking here for a couple of weeks and reading everything that could help with my current conundrum. I am currently on my 4th Porsche (987 I Picked up new in 2006), but am looking for something with four usable seats and a truly sporty feel to it (can't really wait for the Panamera to appear and drop to a 60T€ price or lower;-). No matter what the sensible part of my brain tells me...I keep coming back to Modena. There's something about an Italian V8 that screams...must own one.

Anyway, I feel like I've sussed the major differences between 3200s and 4200s and can see valid points for both. I do a good bit of heavy traffic, city driving here in Frankfurt and could appreciate a non-CC transmission...but the temptation of a younger machine and a Ferrari motor are not easily denied...if only it had those stunning headlights. I digress...

Anyway: I spent sometime at the local Maserati dealer here and they have 2 4200s and a very nice looking 3200 GTA. The 3200 is the exact colour combination that makes my heart scream YES, but is the older car and has the more expensive service needs (though I currently drive ca. 10TKM/yr.). Here's the skinny on prices and milage:

- 3200 with ca. 50TK for 38,5T€...2001
- 4200 with ca. 33TKM for ca. 43T€...2003

Both machines have FSH and two previous owners and would leave the dealer with fresh services and belts (esp. 3200). I should be test driving them both next week (and should have the 3200 Buyer's Guide by then...ordered it last night). Here's the main point I need help with...what do you all think of those prices? They seem higher than those I am reading in the UK (but most of those were private sales anyway). How much room do you think is reasonable for negotiation with a main dealer (the cars have been there for a couple of months at least)? Is 5% reasonable...more? Finally, what sort of insurance prices should I be looking at? My Maserati man told me he could offer a 2300€/yr. deal with a 500 deduct...this seemed a bit high (but then again the Porsches are dirt cheap at ca. 700€/yr.).

Any answers or other tidbits (something you lot seem to be excellent at delivering;-) would be most appreciated.

Thanx and Cheers
Russell

31/1/2008 15:34:00  
 

Posts: 713
Since: 12/3/2007
Region: Hampshire
Status: offline 		Hi Russell and welcome to the forum.

I don’t know the German market, but by UK prices they both look a bit high with the 4200 perhaps being the better deal, assuming condition and history are pretty equal for the two cars.

Mine’s a 3200 manual which can be tiresome in slow traffic, but once on the open road it’s superb. I’ve not driven a CC, and there does seem to be a difference of opinion between those who have. Maybe that’s down to a combination of driver technique when in paddle mode and early v late models (I think the later CC's did have better software). You might find an auto easier to live with, and there’s no hassle with clutch wear. Although the 4200 is a superb engine don't think the 3200 isn't; there are many who prefer the latter, and a well driven 3200 will hold its own when in very respectable company.

There’s some knowledgeable opinions here:

http://www.maseratiforum.co.uk/tm.asp?m=3133&mpage=1&key=gearbox%2Cauto&#3136


Try to look at previous service invoices in addition to the service log; the latter is only a superficial record and it’s the bills that tell the true tale. As a Porsche devotee you probably know that anyway, but Mas bills can be 'challenging' if you buy a lemon.

As well as four seats you also have exclusivity, and unless you're unlucky and buy a bad one a Mas is hugely enjoyable. That's why we all grin like idjuts. 

Good luck, and let us know how you get on with the test drives.

PH
31/1/2008 17:25:46  

Posts: 542
Since: 22/7/2006
Status: offline 		Russel - drive both and decide which one you love most. Condition is king rather than colour or specification, they are all pretty well loaded with options. There are soem pretty unique interior colours about though, anyone seen the emerald green carpets and caramel leather combo 3200 recently?
In theory the the manual car with the highest revving engine gets my vote (and most petrol heads), but be open minded if you do a lot of city driving. Mine is a manual and yes the clutch is heavy and yes it is a little bit awkward in traffic, but......so what? Only you know which one you can live with, Remember even Porsche still cater for all tastes with sportomatic, sorry tiptronic gearboxes.
For servicing all older cars need is a good specialist, find your local Italian servicing shop and call round for a chat.
Try this insurer booked through A-Plan here in uk, but a european company "Groupama", who did mine for less than £600

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alfa 166 3.0V6 Gone
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3200GT assetto corsa 40/75
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1/2/2008 5:18:54  
 

Posts: 2
Since: 31/1/2008
Status: offline 		Thanx for the feedback and words of wisdom (especially the insurance tip). I'll report back after the test drives...hopefully next Friday. The dealer couldn't give me a weekend timeslot:-(.
Cheers
Russell
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