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Merak SS - What to do?

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29/4/2011 21:37:56  
 

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Hi everyone

I have a 1982 Merak SS. It failed it's MOT in 2005 on low compression in one cylinder and was told it could cost £000s and so it went into a garage. It is now out and the engine is now running. The compression problem may still be there but the guy who will restore it says it seems ok.

However due to it's long time in the garage it has developed more problems including leaking hydraulics, bodywork and more no doubt which could still end up costing me £000s. The restorer is quite the realist/pessimist??

My question is, and I appreciate this is a 'how long is a piece of string?' kind of question, what might I get for it as it is now without an MOT and needing work as opposed to a car which can be driven away?

Thanks for any help.

Phil
3/5/2011 1:29:40  

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Should be worth at least 6K as barn find complete Meraks have sold on Ebay for this kind of figure and maybe up to 9K if it looks good
4/5/2011 17:29:38  
 

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Hi Julian

Thanks for that. Having seen some good models going for respectable money I am probably going to have it restored. Gulp.

Phil
5/5/2011 8:25:05  

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hmm...

good luck, then.

seems like you could slip into a dangerous mindset there; the mindset of a restoration project as an investment.

I would say, if you open the garage and something moves within you when you see the car, then there's a value to be sustained that cannot be measured. If, on the other hand, the lift the door and get a lump in your throat, then perhaps there's an easier way of life!

You rarely get back what you spend on (certain) Masers and if you still have enthusiasm for the car, then that alone has to be the justification, as flat financial analysis will rarely be in your favour...

(when I lift the garage door, I get a lump in my throat, at the same time as being moved...!)

JimP
5/5/2011 8:55:01  
 

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Hi JimP

It is not an investment to me. Debts dictate whether to try and get more for it. I agree it is a gamble. I might get £8k - £11k for it now and I could spend £5k to get another £11k or spend £11k to get another £5k!

I would dearly love to keep it as I too get moved and lumpy. I however do not have my own garage which is not ideal. Having said all that I can imagine that when it is up and running I would keep it AND the debt. Gulp.

Phil
5/5/2011 11:11:39  

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Well done Phil,

I think the Merak will pay you back albeit, very long term!!

If you are interested we have a worldwide group of 23 enthusiatic Merak owners who share info and tips etc. If you would like to join please contact me at
julian.quincey@hsv.com.au

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10/6/2011 8:42:16  
 

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The refurb is the easy bit to quantify as it's just a maths exercise, the emotion not so, although you do have to keep your feet on the ground and realise that cars of that era were made from relatively low quality metals and unless you are going to spend megabucks it is nigh on impossible keep problems at bay in the long term.

I had a Scimitar GTE for over 20 years and loved it to bits so I set out to do a nut and bolt restoration on it. While costing the restoration a concours version sold for much less than I was going to spend so I abandoned the idea and moved into Mas ownership. Same emotions, much higher cost, but so much more rewarding.

PH
10/6/2011 10:34:01  

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Hey Phil;

well that's an interesting story!

Somebody was telling me once that Scimitars had non-metallic panels... Is that true...?

and are you still a "happy driver" now...??
10/6/2011 12:05:15  
 

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Hi ZAM

I could bore for England on the subject of GTE's but will try to resist the tempation, so:

Fibreglass body styled by Tom Karen of Ogle Design and derived from the Scimitar Coupe..
Early (SE5/5A) version had chrome bumpers and the 3 litre Essex V6 engine
Next version (SE6) had a larger body and rubber bumpers, again with the Essex lump.
Update to SE6A /B used the Cologne 2.8 V6
A company called Middlebridge bought the Scimitar rights from Reliant and the final incarnation was the 'Middlebridge Scimitar' using a 2.9 Ford engine. Middlebridge only produced a few cars before going bust after a court case involving a famous Bentley (that's a story in it's own right), and I think Graham Walker now owns the Scimitar rights.

Although later versions had galvanised chassis the early ones suffered corrosion, especially on the outriggers, fuel tanks, etc, and the fibreglass finish on the later models was much improved. Even so, when you add up the cost of a good restoration it's not cheap as a few owners will testify. Fibreglass crazes and is prone to microblistering if not correctly prepped before spraying, and a good fibreglass respray is not cheap, so in a way there is a read across to restorations on metal tubs of similar vintage.

The leap into Maserati was a mid-life love affair with an Assetto Corsa (it's in the gallery). Proposed ownership of a year or so was actually approaching 4 years when other priorities  required my time and money, so we are temporarily Masless and the AC is now with a very caring owner in Melbourne. The plan was to get a 4200, possibly a Gransport next, but if we leave it for a while a Gran Turismo will be possible, decisions decisions!

Although I do like the seventies cars including Meraks, Boras, Khamsins, etc, you can't get away from the fact that quality in those days was somewhat indeterminate, hence the Isopon consumption which is not associated with modern cars. All such cars are restorable, however, the deeper the restoration the higher the cost, and to keep tin worm at bay I think you would have to go very deep unless you are very lucky.    

PH
11/6/2011 6:13:47  
 

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Hi Phil (& Phil), I restored a Lancia Montecarlo over more years than I care to admit. At one stage I stopped adding up the costs, as I had gone too far to stop and it was beyond what the car would fetch if I did ever decide to sell it. As my dear Dad said at the time though; if I was not working on the car during my spare moments, I would have been spending money on other hobbies or pursuits. Using that reasoning you can consider some of the costs to be hobby and mental well being related (although you will be frustrated more times than not)! Would I do it again? TBH, I am not sure, but every time I see or drive the car it feels incredibly special. If I had a Maserati Merak I would do it without hesitation. As for Phil's AC living in Melbourne, well it is with me now and I am loving that as well. If it is red with black interior let me know if you want to sell! Regards, Stephen

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