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29/12/2011 19:02:00  
 

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Periodically my beautiful cambiocorsa will not start ...I have to wait up to 30 min at times for it to start. Mind you this happens when I am leaving the grocery store, mall etc... It has gotten so bad that the motor will cut off while ideling or at low rpm's (like going over a speed bump). I have taken it to numerous mechanics (dealership and independent specialist) and they have not been able to disgnose the problem. From my own research, I have come to the conclusion that this problem is related to the fuel pump relay. Can anyone confirm or deny this? And if it is the relay where is the relay located so that I can replace it?
29/12/2011 21:11:19  
 

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I found the F1 relay! It was like looking for a thief in the night. I'll replace tonight and see if this corrects the problem. Car won't start every 5 or so starts. Turns over and won't fire. But after a 10-30 min wait fires right up. As of lately it has cut off at idle once at a stnd still and once going over railroad tracks! Car seems to be at a lesser power now I've noticed. Doesn't have the same aggressive rumble at idle and acceleration as usual. ??? 2004 CC
30/12/2011 10:33:14  

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Since: 27/1/2008
Region: Bristol
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Sorry you have not been given any pointers so far.

Sounds like fueling issues; have the fuel cans been replaced, or any blocked lines; I understand the fuel rais opperate at high pressure and if there are any debries that may cause low speed starvation...having said that I would expect any main dealer to have picked that up.

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30/12/2011 20:37:38  

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Since: 16/3/2009
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Or........phone Emblem!
30/12/2011 23:22:07  
 

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They have no idea. I replaced the F1 relay today but still no more power. Low idle. Usually at about 10k rpm Now it is at about 7k. I'm lost on this. No start every 5/10 starts and cut off twice... Lost???
13/1/2012 20:06:06  
 

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Well.... My nightmare is continuing... Now they (FCI) say its my clutch & they say its $5185 ??? I'm going to check the MAF because they won't check it. I'm frustrated. Thank you for the post I'll try
14/1/2012 0:33:29  

Posts: 39
Since: 7/8/2011
Region: South West
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hi Virginia, I would suggest checking your battery and all of the terminal connections from your battery. I had a similar problem and I have done the following: a) Tighten the positive and negative battery terminals in the boot. The negative terminal was very loose. When you ask for 30Amp during a start, through a loose connection you don't get it! b) check the bulk head battery connection. Its in the back engine bay near the washer bottle c) If these are tight - replace the battery - get a really high cca battery fitted e.g. 80 cca and keep the old one on trickle for a while. d) Then it in the boot with jump leads ready for the emergency situation. When you can't start connect the spare to the main battery using the jump leads to give it some help. e) Before you try and start the car, turn off lights, aircon, radio etc to give it lowest load. f) double check your slow speed fan control works. A good indicator could be to persuade someone to bump start the car when it is sulking. If it bump starts your battery is probably not able to cope with the radiator fan, lights, air con etc PLUS the starter motor and something important e.g. spark plugs is missing out. My guess is that the load which the car sometimes asks for is not always available from the battery thats why its hard to start with the fans, lights, air con etc on sometimes, and why it stops working at low RPM. cheers, Zombie
14/1/2012 0:47:10  
 

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I just had the low speed fixed because it wasn't working. I will check these. The only thing is sometimes it will cut on with no problems and after a run to the gas station or a friends. After I come back out then the car will not start. Mind boggling... I've had ghost problems with my BMW & Mercedes but nothing like this... This has made me think maybe the car has been vandalized (tampered with) 1 indie, 3 emblems and 0 100% answers
14/1/2012 8:22:19  

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Since: 8/3/2008
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Hi I had a very similar problem with my 3200. The problem was the power cable feed to the starter motor through the bulkhead. It was loose. It's very easy to check. It's above the fuse board in the passenger foot well. There are two large diameter cables held in by 10mm nuts. It's these that you would need to check. Take care not to touch anything with the spanner! Better still disconnect the battery beforehand... Good luck! Bill
27/1/2012 16:46:28  
 

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Since: 31/10/2010
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Hello there
Just had the same problem fixed on my 2006 Gransport
It was a small valve that monitors the vacuum in the inlet manifold which sticks open especially when hot or having just refuelled.
Cheap fix just £25 for the part and £50 labour
Worth a try?

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