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Twin Turbos on a 4200

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5/2/2011 2:15:03  
 

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Can it be done? Everything can be done.. but can this be done minimally?

Im getting greedy people.. Im getting bloody greedy.
5/2/2011 7:16:19  

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As you said anything can be done - but why?  Why not by an Evo (old) and play around with that!!! or some other make?  These cars are what they say - when you brought it no turbos - so why did you not buy a 3200 and play with that? larger Ts etc.  Not sure why you brought the 42oo to mess around with?  I used to do this in the old days slap turbos on Fords etc - but I moved on along time ago - if I wanted a turbo car I would buy one.  The cost of a proper conversion is £00000000000000000000s and what for? exceed 200 3-4 sec 0-60?  but why when you buy one of the shelf?  sorry to be negative but I can not see the purpose of what you want too do?

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5/2/2011 7:26:40  
 

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Not turbos, but superchargers:

http://www.maserati-tec.com/html/mpp_ccdimodena.html

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5/2/2011 8:07:37  
 

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Supercharger?? Could be something..

My thought is.. I want to give the Maser a better name than its current 287KW one.

Damnit theres Fords with 317 and 325Kw.
5/2/2011 9:21:10  

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Would be fun... but as Peter says, it would be less expensive to buy a 3200 :) And you will have a back-up car...

In a car like that, you've seen the mods needed for the superchargers:

-Mounting of two superchargers, belt propulsion, large aluminium-intercooler
-New engine management & ignitionsystem with rev limiter at 8.000 R/pm
-Stainless steel resonance exhaust system
-Modified gearbox and engine management
-Modified valve timing

If you manage to find the places to locate the turbos, make all the tubing and adaptations for the exhaust, inlet, turbo cooling, etc..., you will need also to modify all engine management, which I suspect it is not so easy in an electronics dominated car without the proper tools, and also gearbox (or you will shortly get it revented with the new torque). And you've seen also the price :)
5/2/2011 9:24:36  
 

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Twin Turbo-ing it will be a breeze.. Custom tubing isn't an issue..

I guess the biggest concern is the Engine Management.. I wonder if a piggyback chip can do the job.. similar to Formula Dynamics
5/2/2011 9:25:01  
 

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Big enough turbos... I can take my babe to 500KW
5/2/2011 19:34:46  

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Sorry - if you can afford all this why buy a 4200? As I said their many other cars out their for you to play with so come back to earth - by yourself an Atom V8 and I am shure you will be happy - and no need to destroy a car that does not need to be the fastest or are you a secret Saxo Owner!!!!

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6/2/2011 0:23:38  
 

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Note to self.. When discussing 4200 mods.. make sure peterC is on holiday

6/2/2011 7:54:35  

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No problem will let you know in advance!! Some sites have people who are not what they seem!! and it can get boring - not sayiong you are one of them.  But some questions are ones a maserati owner, no matter how much money they have/position in the food chain would ask or suggest.

Anything can be done with a engine - cash/time/knowledge etc.  But in most cases these cars were built the way the are for a reason.  Again if you have the sort of spare cash you need for modifications you suggest, buy a car with the performace you want or a cheaper none descript car and "hot it up" hence the Saxo (other makes are available).

Ps if you have £30K to spare my daughter needs her Toyota aygo tuning up - If you want to have fun take your car on a track day or out in the snow with your foot down - you wont get a much bigger "rush"

Now on holiday

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6/2/2011 10:28:00  
 

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Heres what you dont know.

Im from Australia and in my city Maseratis are rare.

I want to work the car.. but in a way where ppl still think its stock.

Here ppl have the idea that Maseratis are 500KW beasts that will eat anything on the road. When I tell them its 287KW.. every single one has replied "**** off.. my Ford is quicker than that"

Hence why the twin turbos.. ppl will just expect it that quick regardless.. saving embarrasment when a shonky ass car puts me away on a 1km stretch
6/2/2011 12:57:46  
 

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There are serious Masa owners in OZ - clearly this cannot be counted as being one. 



6/2/2011 13:00:13  

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quote:

ORIGINAL: emperor

Here ppl have the idea that Maseratis are 500KW beasts that will eat anything on the road. When I tell them its 287KW.. every single one has replied "**** off.. my Ford is quicker than that"


What a silly statement. You could use the same misguided argument to justify modifying the 640 bhp engine in a Mc F1. You have an unfortunate way with expressing yourself that comes across as a Troll - If you know better, why post here asking for advice?  What you appear to have difficulty understanding is that BHP or KW alone does not mean that the car is "quicker", if the power increase is obtained by narrowing the power band and/or destroying mid range torque - A case in point was the F40 (475 bhp from 2.8 litres as standard) that was modified in Japan, IIRC, to produce in excess of 650bhp. This became undrivable as the power band was so narrow with massive power suddenly cutting in.  

Peter, some folk just want more power than the standard application and there is nothing wrong with that at all. Any engine can be turbocharged but the key question is, is this the best way of achieving maximum bang for bucks on a 4200 engine? Probably not. The mods will require a full engine rebuild (not cheap even with a standard build) with substantial changes to pistons / valve gear / timing / fuel system / management system and not least the transmission. The practical limit appears to be 550bhp using low boost Superchargers as Modena Tec have done but even this costs Euro 30,000. By contrast, their 3200 was modified to 610bhp @ Euro 49,000 !!!

If the OP really needs bar room bragging cred, try a modifying a Nissan Skyline as Roberto Grimaldi friend did recently @ 1,200 bhp. Now that is real "kick-ass" but his wallet would suffer well in excess of Modena Tec prices.   


hope this helps

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6/2/2011 13:36:16  
 

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I own a Maserati Spyder 4200.. I want to make sure my car will beat all Australian V8s.

At the moment it doesnt..

GET.. THAT.. THRU.. UR.. HEAD

< Message edited by emperor -- 6/2/2011 13:43:18 >
6/2/2011 13:38:15  
 

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I own a Maserati Spyder 4200.. I want to make sure my car will beat all Australian V8s.

At the moment it doesnt..

GET.. THAT.. THRU.. UR.. HEAD

< Message edited by emperor -- 6/2/2011 13:44:29 >
6/2/2011 13:40:01  
 

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The last time I checked.. the car was registered in MY NAME... which means if I want to bash the fkn thing with a baseball bat.. THEN SO BE IT

Fark its like Ive robbed your family and killed your dog by asking a simple God damnit question

My brother bought a 135i and HE KEPT UP with me.. THIS TO ME IS UNACCEPTABLE

< Message edited by emperor -- 6/2/2011 13:46:23 >
6/2/2011 14:30:01  

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Wealth, poverty and horsepower are so irrelevant when it comes to civility commonsence and style. Enjoy what ever you would like to do to your cars. Like the great man said, you can take a horse to water but you cannot make it drink ( or is think??) I am off on holiday too... BTW small point..... What is ppi??
6/2/2011 14:47:50  

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emperor - I have an idea for you that will keep your credibility and save you a fortune.

DON'T tell people your car has less hp than they think it has and DON'T race anyone on the street.

Simple, eh?
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